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Olympic tickets stampede in Beijing



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Published Date: 26 July 2008
UNWASHED, unfed and lacking sleep, tens of thousands of Chinese shouted, pushed and shoved as they made a final attempt to get their hands on Olympic tickets yesterday.
Crowds threatened to break through heavy police cordons and scuffles broke out at one ticket site as officials opened extra sales windows at the last minute, causing some fans to stampede ahead of others in a bid to buy some of the 250,000 tickets that went on sale in different parts of Beijing.

"It was so unfair," said Ji Liqiang, who had waited for 28 hours with Wang Zhenqiang, a fellow businessman from eastern Shandong province, for a chance to buy tickets to the diving competition. "Those who came late but were able to push forward got the tickets."

The two lost their place in the queue and instead of tickets to see the diving – in which China is a gold-medal favourite – they ended up with tickets to the synchronised swimming.

The official Xinhua News Agency said 30,000 people had lined up for tickets, and temperatures above 34C, coupled with the long wait, had made people impatient.

Police threw bottles of water into the crowd, dozens of ambulances stood by to go to the aid of those queuing up, and the hundreds of police and paramilitary People's Armed Police personnel were also feeling the strain.

Despite the problems, an Olympic official said the start of the sale had gone well. "There were so many people who wanted tickets, so we decided to open more ticket windows.

"In general, so far the ticket sale has gone smoothly," said Sun Weide, a spokesman for Beijing's Olympic organising committee.

For Xue Manjie, the wait was worth it. The 19-year-old and eight friends bought tickets after waiting since Thursday morning. "We can't get the tickets for the games we want but at least we can have a look inside the Water Cube and the Bird's Nest," Xue said, referring to the swimming venue and the main athletics stadium.

Xue and his friends, who had just finished their university entrance exams, wanted tickets to the basketball, but had to settle for the synchronised swimming and preliminary track and field events.

At Wukesong in the western part of Beijing, tens of thousands of people queued to buy tickets for the popular basketball competition, for which about 20,000 tickets were on sale.

The Olympics start a week on Friday and, all told, 6.8 million tickets have been available for domestic and foreign sales.

Though previous Games have had problems filling venues for the less popular events, those in Beijing are expected to be packed with enthusiastic fans. Some tickets were given away to school groups and government work units in an effort to present packed stadiums to television viewers around the world.

Organisers have said they are taking precautions against fake tickets and touts, both of which are common in China. Buyers yesterday were limited to two tickets per person.

BACKGROUND

Tickets for the Games range in price from 5,000 yuan (£370) for the opening ceremony to only 30 yuan (£2.20) for the softball preliminaries.

The sale of the 6.8 million-plus Olympic tickets on offer has been swift, but not without incident. Prospective buyers have complained on blogs and in chat-rooms of not being able to complete purchases after the third batch of tickets was released in May.

The former Olympic ticketing chief was sacked last November after the ticketing website crashed on the opening day of the second round of sales.

Police are cracking down on touts. More than 40 have been arrested, including one who was selling 50 yuan basketball tickets for 5,000 yuan.


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  • Last Updated: 25 July 2008 10:39 PM
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celticdaft,

26/07/2008 03:53:50
#1 you need to get out moe
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26/07/2008 03:54:46
#1 you need to get out more
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lush,

Beijing---Olympic games 26/07/2008 04:11:46
#1 --- "We don't need the foreigners to come and buy the tickets, fill the hotels, or anything that comes along with the Olympics"....... Being a foreigner working here AT the olympics this statement is rubbish. There are many international organisations/companies that are essential to the running of the olympics and who China could not hold these olympic games without them.
Oh and by the way the broadcasting for the olympics is run by BOB (Beijing Olympic Broadcasting) who happen to be a Sino-foreign joint venture funded by BOCOG and the Olympic Broadcasting Services (OBS).
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africanj,

Yokohama,Japan 26/07/2008 04:54:13
You need to see carefully on these tickets which are all good inside Beijing, but it may require additional international certification.
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lush,

Beijing---Olympic games 26/07/2008 06:28:38
I think you have a slightly large chip on your shoulder, get over it! Its a pretty sad reflection on you.
Also I never said China couldnt sell out all the olympic tickets domestically.... i know they can. However this doesnt mean all tickets should go to Chinese people! The whole point of the olympics is its internationalism and therefore Im sure much to your disgust foreign tourists should be welcome to attend events.
Secondly your comment "the only foreigners we need here for the Games are the athletes!, is quite frankly silly! There is a whole army of support staff that follow the Olympics around the world and is made of a host different nationalities. These people have the required experience and technical abilities required to run and host an olympic games. There here to help!

Thirdly I never badmouthed you or anything to do with China, you just seem ignorant to the fact that China needs international assistance to run certain aspects of the olympic games. Plus thankfully having worked on&off in China since 2002 you are the first real anti-western person i have meet.

Fourthly, why if you think our media is so biased are wasting your time commenting on and reading a UK newspaper? Also CCTV or China daily are hardly ambassadors for "freedom of speach"!
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Mashimaro,

China 26/07/2008 07:02:50
Googoo, seriously dude, you need to catch up with the world. You are so far behind the times I'm surprised you could use the internet.
Lush: You are quite right. The Olympics is a global expression of athleticism, and that is how it should be treated. I think China posters to this site are just really angered at the way publications like the Scotsman lies. The previous article on how hotels in Beijing are not full and the following comments implied that "the world" (for that read certain little parts of Europe)was shunning the Games.
Then followed remarks about how our government would "force" people to go to watch the Games. Hence Postmark's remarks when it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that WE WANT THE GAMES, and WE SUPPORT THE GAMES. We do not "need" foreign spectators to fill seats. There are plenty of people in our own country who want to see the Games.
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Jim A,

26/07/2008 07:45:35
#Mashimaro, you seem like a pretty laid back sort, but maybe you could have a word with Postmarkfifty-5 maybe help them chill out some. Old postmark up there is going to burst a blood vessel if he/she isn't careful. Bit of an excitable sort I'd say ;-)
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Nisbet,

26/07/2008 08:59:08
Now watch as eBay gets flooded.
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Oslo 26/07/2008 11:21:49
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Hey Postmankitty-5, do you realise how ridiculous you sound?. If you ever wanted to reinforce peoples prejudices....
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ac90002,

NJ USA 26/07/2008 11:41:06
So postmarkfifty, China did not invade Tibet and is not occupying it? That's our western imagination? The video we've all seen of your solders shooting your fellow citizens in Tienanmin Square was western media lies? Or maybe a defect in the video software? Perhaps something went wrong when the software was being pirated, copied for free and resold for a fraction of its legal price? That's just a western lie, too, right, postmarkfifty ... your countrymen respect all intellectual property rights and insist that software developers be paid fairly for their work, like everyone else, right?

Please say yes, so my faith in your people can be restored.
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Guga II,

Rockall 26/07/2008 12:06:36
#13 Skidmark. You should have a read of that article too.
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Mashimaro,

China 26/07/2008 12:10:24
#16 Tibet is part of China and has been longer than whites have been in America and Australia and most of Africa, for that matter. It has been part of one country since the Mongols ruled it. The Mongols installed the Dalai Lama and the Dalai Lama was a cruel feudal lord who treated his people no better than animals and kept many slaves. Since the chinese reasserted their authority, Tibetans have enjoyed literacy, food, healtccare and DOUBLED their life expectancy.
Yes people died at Tienanmin, it was very sad. It was also not the way it was described in the western media. China has changed a lot since then, but you westerners are too blinded by your lying media to see that. As for piracy... yarrrrr ho ho
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26/07/2008 13:09:57
All you chines posters are really quite racsist. Using expressions like round eyes and China doesn't need the West really does nothing to change anyones opinions. It seems that the Chinese olympic authorities react to reports ie. A report that hotels rooms have not been booked, next day a report that the Chinese people have booked lots of rooms, a report that protestors will be put in a special areas, next day a report that a reporter was released.
You must tell the Chinese authorities that they only have themselves to blame, after years of misinformation and news blackouts what else can you expect.
Also, with a population of 1.5 billion you would expect at least 1 Chinese poster to say that things aren't all rosy in China.
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celticdaft,

26/07/2008 13:32:39
To postmarkfifty....

the bulk of your comments here really reflect what the olympics are about but unfortunately not what they should be about. Way more than the world cup they are used as a political tool for silly nationalism. Berlin, Moscow and even LA were all the same and looks like Beijing will be added to that list. To make comments about not needing foreigners about an event which supposedly brings the world together is really depressing. What's more depressing is the fact that you can't see the negative side of your country. I have been to china and i think its people are wonderful, its food is wonderful and its history is wonderful. It also has little political freedom, dreadful pollution and poor current human rights. That is the reality not some western fabrication. A lot of these things can apply to western countries too however I would say that generally in the west we are a little more critical of our own governments. Seeing as you reading the scotsman why not look at the articles about the glasgow byelection and some of the comments regarding the UK government. A sign of true greatness in a country would be to work towards removing the negative side of you country not trying to pretend that their is some world conspiracy against you. Perhaps one day soon you will be able to have your own byelection where the Falun Gong, Tibetan independance party and the monster raving loonies can join the ballot along with the communist party.

But the olympics seems to bring out the worst. Personally i hate the Olympics. People running round a track... big deal. Its more a contest on who is the best at avoiding the drug detection. I predict disqualifications in the 30s this year. Anyone else?

Oh and PS China can we have some of our jobs back. We have the right to make cr*p too.
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Mashimaro,

China 26/07/2008 14:14:10
#20 I have frequently said that things aren't rosy in China. Thank you for believing the authorities would pay any attentnion to me at all.
Of course our government is reacting to things. But perhaps you dont' understand quite how things work.
I am sorry if you find the comment of "round eye" offensive or racist. I cannot think of any other way to capture the way that westerners think and see things. And they do have a completely different way of seeing things.
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26/07/2008 14:54:44
Now just a cockle picking minute here Mashimaro and postmarkfifty, me old Chinas. Are you placed on here by the Chineese government as mouth pieces for the olympics or what. And Mashimaro if you dont like people commenting on Chinesse issues keep your snout out scottish ones because to me you just seem like a troll.
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26/07/2008 15:24:17
# Danbob I haven't said a pantsing thing about Scotland. I came here about Russia and found the rubbish being said about China here.
and asking a question like "are we placed here by the Chinese government" is a bit pointless. If we were placed here would we admit it? If we weren't placed here how could we prove it.
I don't know what a troll is. All I am trying to do is point out to anyone willing to listen that your press lies to you and China has made great improvements over the last decade.
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China 26/07/2008 15:37:39
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

YES!

"A controversial photograph of cusualties from the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown was deliberately inserted into Wednesday's editon of a leding Beijing newspaper after the editors approved the page, industry sources said yesterday.
"The Beijing News published the picture, by renowned photographer Lui Xiancheng under the title "The Wounded" as part of a profile on Liu commemorating the 30th anniversary of the nation's opening up and reform.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/07/2008 15:44:17
I cannot believe the racism, arrogance, and zenophobia of the posters from China.

MASHMIMARo ia hia

Mashimaro is his usual frenetic and illogical self and poster #1 demonstrates the mindset of many, if not most, in China.

He makes a generalisation about the Western "ignorance" about China and then compounds his stupidity by saying that "We don't need the foreigners to come..."

Is this not an INTERNATIONAL Olympic Games or one just set up by the corrupt Chinese government to promote the "glory" of China?

"unwashed and unfed" sums up the personality of poster #1 and he does China no favours by spouting such hateful nonsense.

OFF TO ENFORCED RICE PAD DUTY FOR POSTER #1!!! He is a disgrace and embarrassment to China.
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26/07/2008 16:02:09
"""""The only negative side of our country is the fact that we have far too many people, but we are trying to deal with that, but it isn't easy.
What upsets me is that people keep saying things about human rights abuses, well, that's been done away with. Our current leadership, led by Hu Jintao, is doing a fine job tackling all the problems that this country faces due to over population, and he and his cabinet are doing as good a job as can be expected. If the west stops hurling insults at us, I will sit back and relax, but keep the insults coming, and I'll come out time and again to defend my country, it's as plain and simple as that.""""

There is no point having a discussion with you. You are a mouthpiece. You almost sound North Korean..."our dear leader loves us.blah blah blah"

For anybody in any country anywhere to say there is only a single problem in their country (in your case population) is ridiculous. While i accept the fact that the population size contributes to it greatly one of the main issues your country has is pollution. Whether this is air pollution.. the smog in some of your cities is worse than victorian London, self induced environmental pollution.... you three gorges dam will come to haunt you one day, water pollution... whether it is the sea (wouldn't dip a toe in a lot of it) or rivers from industrial and agricultural pollutants. Like i said above these are issues in most other parts of the world. This is not an attack on or insult to China that you seem to want to defend like some noble idealist. It just happens to be a reality. Face it like we over here are trying to face our problems. There isn't enough room here to details problems with China and likewise the US, Uk or even the great Canada. Accept that your problems are numerous and not only your population size. THen maybe we can continue to chat. Until then i'll leave you with a challenge. Me and you both go out today and i'll go over and stand in front of the Ontario parliament
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celticdaft,

26/07/2008 16:08:17
...Ontario parliament and you go to the equivalent in Beijing and we spend 5 minutes shouting insults at the politicians who work there and we will see who can still log on here at the end of the day. I'm guessing you may encounter another problem with your country. Canada being the way it is i would probably ask to keep it quite as i am waking the cops up.
I doubt you will as you come off sounding like a compliant drone... kind of like a lot of those mid west American foreigners you see as being so different from yourself.
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26/07/2008 16:24:18
#12 Postmarkfifty, I have no beef with you mate, chill out, you'll live longer
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26/07/2008 19:00:05
Totally off topic, and for #35, H.C.-I completly agree w/ what you wrote the other day re:seal hunts, and just wanted to direct you to seashepherd.org. Sorry all. Done.
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Blast off,

midwest USA 26/07/2008 20:34:01
I have worked with many Chinese over the years but have yet to meet one who has been to Tibet. yea, they know all about it third hand which makes them no more authorities than anyone else in the world. yes, I have been there so know that much of what the official Chinese propaganda is, is nothing more than propaganda. I would love to go back.
Selling Olympic tickets to the Chinese does not bring in foreign euros, dollars, or any other currency to fill the fancy hotels and the pricy restaurants. and that is the bottem line.
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Rebel,

SC, USA 26/07/2008 20:55:02
It seems many in the west have a big problem tolerating a person defending his culture. Well, as you are overrun by peoples whose main intent is extermination of ALL western culture, (and all western peoples), think back to these Chinamen defending Chinese values. Then consider a rosier outcome which could have been possible if western peoples had only sought to defend their own peoples against others bent on their annhilation instead of spending their energies
criticizing and trying to change eastern peoples and culture. Kind of like Opium being forced on China - again.
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Media 1,

cape town 26/07/2008 21:19:01
Postmarky

I take one look at China and I see so much of the west. I look at the west and see nothing resembling China.
That alone is enough said!
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Mashimaro,

27/07/2008 00:33:04
#28 Far be it from me to teach you your own language, but there is a difference between NEED foreigners to come and WANT foreigners to come.
I said we don't NEED foreigners to come. I did not say we don't WANT foreigners to come. What do you think that whole "get with western manners" program has been about, why do you think that volunteers from all over the country have gone to Olympic cities to man tourist information booths in myriad languages? eejit.
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Mashimaro,

China 27/07/2008 00:45:50
#29 Celticdaft: Unlike Postmark, I agree, China has immense problems. But let us put those problems into OUR perspective for you. You sit there in your industrialised nations and tell Chinese people "You can't do what we did." People in the US have two or three cars per family and yet they think Chinese people should not have any cars - because they cause pollution. Do you imagine the Hoover damn was not an environmental disaster when it was first built? Of course it was. Any time you make that radical a change to the environment it will have huge consequences. China has no other choice but to build 3 gorges dam. It has already come back to haunt us in the worst possible way. But that is our problem and something we will live with. So 80,000 people died and hundreds of thousands more were traumatised - it will save the lives of millions. You point a finger at China's water pollution - and yet you don't seem to understand that just off the US there is an oceanic "dead zone" that stretches hundreds of sq km because of that country's agricultural run off. That fact is that the west has been savagely polluting the world for more than 200 years. Now you've come to realise your mistakes you want to deny the progress of industrialisation to other countries. Notably China because it is such an economic force. The only reason China has such a pollution problem is because of the number of its people. And if you had to work out where China stands on the world index of polluters on a per capita basis you would be astounded.
That being said, the Central Government has recognised that this is a problem and they are trying to determine the best way forwards. It's not a simple matter of slamming factories shut. What do you do with all those workers in the factories, tell them to starve? You can see the upheaval caused in Beijing with the austere measures to cut pollution there. Around a million poor migrant workers are suddenly jobless. Construction businesses and their suppliers
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Mashimaro,

China 27/07/2008 00:47:54
#29 cntd: Construction businesses and their suppliers are sitting idle, losing money every single day. It's all very easy for you armchair warriors who are reaping the benefits of your own industrial revolution to point fingers and attempt to dictate what China should or should not do. The reality is very different.
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Mashimaro,

China 27/07/2008 00:58:10
#37 "Selling Olympic tickets to the Chinese does not bring in foreign euros, dollars, or any other currency to fill the fancy hotels and the pricy restaurants. and that is the bottem line."

I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but China has so many foreign dollars and euros, and promises of more foreign dollars and euros that it doesn't quite know what to do with them all. Basically it is holding the US and many other western nations by the financial short and curlies. And that is the reason for this sustained media attack against China. You would think that pointing out things like animal cruelty, human rights abuses, slave labour, child labour, would be sufficient to stop greey westerners from supporting unscrupulous businesses - but apparently it's not.
This is just what we have been saying in this thread. China does not need foreign money. We're having a party and you've been invited. Whether or not you come, the party will still go on. And oddly enough there won't be any sort of financial hangover from Beijing as there has been (an there surely will be in the UK) from other cities that have hosted the Games.
Personally I'm apalled that nations of so-called animal lovers such as the British, can send their equestrian team into a country that beats its dogs to death in front of their owners, or skins animals for their fur while they are still alive. But that is just my humble opinion.
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Mashimaro,

China 27/07/2008 01:05:01
#40 media 1

You look around you and see nothing resembling China? You joke, of course. Write on paper, do you? Drink your 5 Roses or Pitco? Have a box of Chow Mein take away? Use ketchup? You telling me Checkers doesn't stock bak choi or soy sauce? Then go out and look on your streets, don't you see us around every corner?
Next time you go shopping, take a look at any coffee mug - turn it over and see where it's made. Wake up doosie. You're being colonised.
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TimW1234,

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postmarkfifty

You are a very sad person obsessed with your own views and oblivious to those of others.

Such xenophobia and self-centredness indicates a mind not willing to open up and see that there is a whole big world beyond the confining borders of China.

You have insulted and vilified everybody who has dared to disagree with you and this demonstrates that sane and pondered thought with you is an impossibility and that you harbour great resentments against foreigners and probably many, many other things.

Such misanthropy is self-destructive but some are so consumed with their own self-importance that they will never realise that these forums are open and democratic and allow ALL forms of discussion, within reason.

Perhaps you should find another "blog" to foment your ignorance.
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Mashimaro,

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I see a lot more of an outcry about the seals, and personally I have no problem with them being slaughtered. I don't mind the dogs being killed, either, but would prefer for it to be done in as humane way as possible.
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Mashimaro,

China 28/07/2008 01:31:47
okay I'm going to break my self imposed rule and feed the troll here...

"Why are the Chinese so superstitious?....it goes totally against the grain of communism and yet their culture is swamped with superstition...good luck charms and ancient beliefs.....yet religion and the belief in a deity or 'Godhead' is scathingly dismissed by their communist dogma??"

Buddhism is alive and well in China and has been for centuries. However, the violence of the religion along with its practices of keeping people as slaves, imposing harsh torture on heretics, forcing families to give up their children to serve in the temples, and their general inability to move forward with land reform brought them into conflict with the will of the peole. Yet they are still there. You can barely walk around a corner without falling over their monks and nuns. Taoism is also a religion and also well supported. Again, come see the temples and priests. Obviously you are clueless when it comes to this country. Catholics have churches here, even though I believe they should not. They are not of us and of our culture and we really don't want millions of people feeling any sort of loyalty to a geriatric westerner who issues policy decisions, thanks very much. How much harder d'you think the One Child policy would be to inforce when you have all those people not even allowed to use a condom?
All religion is superstitious rubbish and used solely for political ends. It just disguises itself in various ways.

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Mashimaro,

China 28/07/2008 01:36:14
The "superstition" you refer to is the mathematical art of fung shui. The government tried to stamp it out on the mainland but it survived in enclaves like Macau and Hong Kong, and so would also survive in Chinese migrant popultions. Now, however, it is making a huge comeback in Greater China. Fung Shui is based on the number 8 - hence the Olympic Games starting at eight minutes past eight o clock on the eighth day of the eighth month in the eighth year after the millenium.
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Regina,

NH, USA 28/07/2008 03:57:00
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Just be happy you live in a country like Canada with better human rights records than China. A gay man like you would be persecuted in China. China has a long way to go before it gets out of the 16th century.
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Mashimaro,

China 28/07/2008 11:32:37
#69 the simple conclusion is that perhaps your view of what China and communism are is a little narrow.
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georgia,

china 28/07/2008 14:50:02
I don't even believe Mashimaro and that other postmark dude are from China - I'm not, but I can write anything I want in the "location" space.
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Fanling,

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#66 Mashimaro,China
"Catholics have churches here, even though I believe they should not. They are not of us and of our culture and we really don't want millions of people feeling any sort of loyalty to a geriatric westerner who issues policy decisions, thanks very much. How much harder d'you think the One Child policy would be to inforce when you have all those people not even allowed to use a condom? All religion is superstitious rubbish and used solely for political ends. It just disguises itself in various ways.

LOL! Especially the bit about "loyalty to a geriatric westerner who issues policy decisions ..." I'd apply this to all organised religion. (Since the 3/4 so-called major religions have their origins in middle-eastern parts, the "geriatric westerner" concept is all the more ludicrous.) While religion per se might offer succour or a crutch to some people, its very irrationality should preclude it from holding its unquestioning masses effectively to a kind of moral ransom.
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Fanling,

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Sorry, forgot to close quotes above ... various ways."
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Mashimaro,

China 29/07/2008 06:49:05
Cankers - here I go feeding the troll again - there are mosques all over China, doh!
I have discussed Falun Gong at length in other threads. There's nothing more to say on them. It's quite pointless to continually rake up old, tired arguments, just for the sake of seeing your name on the site.
I have no problem with you squealing about the Panchen Lama and certainly couldn't be bothered to remove your posts, and I dont think Postmark would be bothered either. Fanling and Song are not here often enough. So that leaves er... Subodai or... ?
But again, asked and answered. Really. I find it quite amusing and I wonder if you would be shrieking for the west to let the neo nazis back in to rule Germany too. Perhaps you'd like to scream for Pinochet and his folks to be restored in Argentina while you're at it.
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ac90002,

NJ USA 31/07/2008 12:57:07
Postmark: Sorry to be a bit personal here ... just curious. Every country has its faults and I know my country has plenty.

just wanted to ask: are you of Chinese descent? and it doesn't bother you that your govt won't allow access to quite a bit of information, such as, according to today's NY Times: anything on the Amnesty International website, scores of Web pages — among them those that discuss Tibetan issues, Taiwanese independence, the violent crackdown on the protests in Tiananmen Square and the Web sites of Amnesty International, the BBC’s Chinese-language news, Radio Free Asia and several Hong Kong newspapers known for their freewheeling political discourse. Just askin' ....

 

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